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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.25 19:43:00 -
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GSC = Giant Secure Container*
Honestly, with a GSC only able to provide about 4k Cargo space. This seriously isn't enough, even to transfer cargo from a mining vessel to a hauler if you want to be safe.
I would like to see a GSC with at least 10k capacity. Maybe more.
I know the reason GSC are made so small is to prevent freighters from augmenting their cargo holds to be bigger then they should be. This can easily be solved by making a GSC's volume about 1k or so bigger then the GSC's cargo hold.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.25 20:56:00 -
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And why shouldn't there be a bigger GSC?
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.25 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever Giant Secure Container
I'm sorry. Not everybody can fly those 
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.25 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever Everybody can train for them.
And it takes, what? Months. I think at my skill level, it would take at least a month to train for if not more. Not to mention, it costs hundreds of millions of isk.
This isn't a thread asking for a huge mobile GSC it's a thread asking for a GSC big enough to hold a decent size amount of ore.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.25 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: DeODokktor I dont understand your request... You want a larger can to jet in space for mining?..
Yes. Look, when there are can flippers around, and an Orca isn't available, all you have to rely on is a GSC.
I mine more m3 in a single cycle then is even available in a GSC. It is vastly annoying to be so constrained by having to flip back and forth through windows every cycle just to get the ore into the hauler to keep it safe. It's unnecessary tedium.
I see no reason why a bigger GSC with larger volume to m3 ratio can't be made.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.26 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jerid Verges on 26/03/2010 02:12:44 Edited by: Jerid Verges on 26/03/2010 02:10:40
Originally by: Misanthra
Originally by: Jerid Verges It is vastly annoying to be so constrained by having to flip back and forth through windows every cycle just to get the ore into the hauler to keep it safe. It's unnecessary tedium.
I see no reason why a bigger GSC with larger volume to m3 ratio can't be made.
Soo...you mean having to work at mining just a little is an inconvenience? C'mon...even an afk domi mission runner has to pull in his drones in the off chance their drones pull the aggro of a new wave.
Ya, you're right. Maybe drones shouldn't even auto agrress anymore, you should have to lock all the targets you want your drones to aggress. 
Maybe we should have to activate our guns every time we want them to fire. No more auto repeating too.
Man that arguement is old, tired, elitist, and full of crap.
Funny that you say "So you want to be able to work at mining less?" Because that's absolute *******s. This suggestion has nothing to do with making mining easier, it has everything to do with helping miners protect themselves from Can flippers. Which, essentially, is incredibly difficult unless you want to jump to the next system.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.26 05:16:00 -
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Exactly, that is the point.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.26 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Trimutius III
And Actually i use Jettison Contaners during mining. It's not that bad. (And hauler is always standing next to my Hulk (so there is nothing to steal but 1 unit of cheapest or that i mine)) (Did i mentioned that i have 4 accounts? And pay for them with PLEXes (trading in Jita rocks)
If a can flipper is right next to you with your can open, No. You will not be able to extract your ore from an accessible can before the flipper does.
A bigger GSC is needed to combat griefing flippers.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.26 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Jerid Verges Edited by: Jerid Verges on 25/03/2010 23:44:53
Originally by: DeODokktor I dont understand your request... You want a larger can to jet in space for mining?..
Yes. Look, when there are can flippers around, and an Orca isn't available, all you have to rely on is a GSC.
I mine more m3 in a single cycle then is even available in a GSC. It is vastly annoying to be so constrained by having to flip back and forth through windows every cycle just to get the ore into the hauler to keep it safe. It's unnecessary tedium.
I see no reason why a bigger GSC with larger volume to m3 ratio can't be made.
CanFlippers really dont care about the size of the can ;P.. If you make the can bigger, they are just going to steal more from you in one go.
You do know that a GSC is password protected...right? That is why a bigger one would be useful, to actually put ore into.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.26 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Daenna Chrysi make the bigger cans use fuels or charters, and they should be more balanced.
And then they wouldn't even be useful
How is a bigger GSC unbalanced? How?
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.27 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jerid Verges on 27/03/2010 18:46:56
Originally by: Straight Chillen Edited by: Straight Chillen on 26/03/2010 16:29:32 GSC's are the size they are to prevent all the things you desire. Increasing GSC size will undoubtly lead to more macro mining.
Except Macroers don't use GSC. I doubt macro mining programs could even anchor a container. Solo macros would never use a GSC and Macro fleets always have an Orca nearby.
Quote: I think your problem lies in that these things require "effort" which you seem completly uninterested in investing.
Thank you for judging my character without even knowing my reasons. If you must know, my corp ha a strict "Ignore" policy when it comes to griefers. Specifically because reacting (which is what you are suggesting) would cause even MORE problems.
So please, stop trying to act like a know-it-all.
Quote: If you want to do it solo, then you need to conform to the game, not vice versa.
I'm not doing it solo numbnut. GSCs aren't even made for soloing. It would be entirely too impracticle. Clearly evidence you DON'T know what you're talking about (Since you apparently don't mine).
Quote: Easy. It will be nerf of Ore Thiefs... Then thiefs should get boost too. Like possibility to hack secure containers...
Nobody theifs ore to make a profit, they do it to get you to engage you, or grief you. Trying to ore thief as a proffession...yeah I'd like to see somebody make a living off that.
tbh I would not mind hacking modules get a boost like that.
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